Have read that Rugers are pretty much the same. nikdanja,

I will say that given two equally accurate loads, bullseye shooters will choose based on cost or recoil. These bullets are meant to stop and neutralize a target in as little as one shot.

Or maybe he is just burning it up because he has them?

It’s just as important to be equipped with the right ammunition so that you can use your gun as efficiently as possible, especially in situations where seconds can mean the difference between life or death. By

If all bullseye shooters cared about was recoil, there would be no such thing as hardball matches, or Magnum Matches. Personally, I have found them to be less accurate than the RNFP in 40 155gr. Over the past several days, I have shot hundreds of HAP/XTPs in two of my .38 Super Autos. For target shooting I'd go with round nose. They are also more accurate in my guns. That's down pretty close to 9mm factory ammo in terms of PF.

Oddly enough, the humble Federal Champion lead round nose also did really well out of the Ruger with a 14-inch average. Or, to get 143 PF from a 230, velocity would have to be down to 622 FPS. My SVI likes 115 FP Berry's better than 115 RN XTremes. This means that the target can still pose a threat long after being shot, even if they are shot multiple times.   Your previous content has been restored. You want the extra thick plating if you are going to drive them realy fast.

Flat points in 9mm are better than round nose for defensive purposes (but not as good as a quality hollow point). The second and third paragraphs were a response to the OPs question in the title, and not connected to the first. As 57K mentioned, the HAP just eliminates the skives (sic). It's not that I would ignore that as being job 1, but since this is a competition oriented forum, I kinda hope that would be understood. I don't suspect there's any advantage to a plated HP, except maybe marketing since JHPs are usually more accurate than FMJs.

× Bullseye shooters don't care about PF, they care about match grade accuracy, as in 100 10X. Jacketed hollow points are more accurate because one of the most significant accuracy factors are the "perfection" of the base of the bullet. Shooting to wound serves as a big deterrent in many situations as well. This is what is commonly-known as a full metal jacket. Both are copper plated. However, in a combat situation or where there are a number of shooters involved, using a full metal jacket bullet can weaken their ability to attack.

Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. At 775 FPS which is pretty slow for a 185, PF is only 143 which is why I said recoil. There are also soft point bullets which fill a gap between full metal jacket and hollow point ammunition. Hollow and soft point bullets can produce enormous carnage inside of a target. but there is the possibility that HP's may be more accurate in your gun.

Xtreme doesn't sell any bullets with exposed lead Anywhere they are all plated even the insides of the hollow points.

  Pasted as rich text. Should I be choosy???

I've heard that hps can be more accurate in certain setups but like you I find frn plenty accurate and at a better price than hps.
Keep in mind that soft point bullets produce fewer fragments than their hollow point counterparts. What you're saying is true the problem is practically it doesn't matter. The best analogy do describe this is to think of what happens when you open up an umbrella. the 230 at the same velocity is going to give 178 PF. but if you own a mk ruger or browning....you won't have a problem with any type of ammo. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

What are the pros/cons? The cavity in a bullet causes turbulence that helps it stabilize better in flight. Because they are generally the cheapest style. The price of the ammo is also the same ($6.47 per 100). But it could be the guy found the HP's to shoot better for him. I don't buy the cavity caused turbulence assertion. A soft-point, which has a softer and smoother nose…

Consistantly have good results in using Fed Bulk and Remington Golden Bullets. Jacketed hollow points are more accurate because one of the most significant accuracy factors are the "perfection" of the base of the bullet. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more!

Accuracy is job 1 in case I post somewhere else and don't make that absolutely. Both rounds are called "high velocity," but the hollow point has 36 grain loads, the round nose 40 grains. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out when very accurate loads can be made with either bullet!

I normally would not shoot high velocity ammo in my target pistols but the Ruger is tough enough to take it. When Cell Phones Stop Working, then What. Then, the lead in the center of the bullet will disintegrate whereas pieces of the soft metal can produce shards and break free, all while the diameter of the bullet will expand significantly. positively clear. Geez, buddy, accuracy is always a given. I just got some 185 HAPs. If ballistic coefficient is such a big deal in accuracy, as you appear to suggest, why do long line bullseye shooters shoot the Nosler 185 JHP (BC 0.142) instead of the Nosler 230 JHP (BC 0.162)? If the 230 was as accurate, you can bet that's what they would be shooting. I shot CCI Standard Velocity in mine for target and CCI Stingers for pest control. For example, if you are hunting with a lever-action rifle that has a tube magazine, you may find that hollow-point bullets jam together. In appropriate calibers, the heavy Pro-Hunters have harder cores, thicker jackets and are suitable for Class 3 animals.

This can reduce the number of people who are shooting while helping to buy time to either develop a tactical advantage or overpower the attack. I have used the X-Treme HP with good results.

I use the RN XTremes for my meat and potatoes rounds. X-treme uses hard lead in their plated bullets, as opposed to soft, swaged lead for Rainiers.

Rail Driver , Apr 16, 2012 I have yet to find a loading manual that has data on 9MAJOR. Both hollow and soft point bullets are designed to expand upon impacting a target while fragmenting inside.

Make sure to consider the differences between these types of bullets as you develop your overall defensive strategies.

I use the CCI Mini-Mag 22LR in my Ruger MK III Hunter, and I'm not able to always find just one type of load. Now, IME, the Nosler JHPs have been very accurate in .45, 9mm and some others.

Personally, I prefer the Rainiers, but they are more expensive. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. (Squirrels, rabbits, birds) I've yet to notice a difference in kills with either hollow point or round nose.

This means there is little room for error in terms of neutralizing a threat. These types of bullets are also less likely to produce an exit wound.

Had a Sig Mosquito that was picky but new Browning Buckmark eats anything you feed it. Thats a new one. They can pierce through the body and major organs, but they do not usually disintegrate or fragment after impact. Paste as plain text instead, × Sarge, talking to some can also give the impression that they should read their load manuals more and post conjecture less! Measure the length of the unseated hollow point bullet and the length of the unseated round nose and calculate how much longer the round nose cartridge needs to be to give you the same seating depth. In close combat situations where you need to take decisive action to stop a threat, then killing is better.

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Why? I use xtreme 180 gr RNFPs and find them plenty accurate in my 1911s.   You cannot paste images directly. Shooting an imminent threat with a full metal jacket bullet can wound them, even fatally, but it may take some time before they are neutralized.

This is one of the reasons that police prefer hollow point ammunition as opposed to full metal jacket bullets. I know that a hollow point bullet makes a wider, spreading impact compared to a round nose, but I don't think I'll see much of this type of impact on a paper target with a cardboard backing. Accuracy is. Not sure if it was the brand or the shape it liked better. they do sell plain hard cast lead bullets also though. A jacketed hollow point that has material inserted into the hollow point to close it up is just as accurate as the regular hollow point, and more accurate that any other hollow point, lead, poly coated or plated. The two most discussed types of ammunition are hollow point and rounded or flat-tipped bullets. Upload or insert images from URL. JavaScript is disabled.
I don't buy the cavity caused turbulence assertion.

mines don't even shoot right with cci minimag.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Both rounds are called "high velocity," but the hollow point has 36 grain loads, the round nose 40 grains. Most police-involved shootings occur at distances of 15 feet or less. I use the CCI Mini-Mag 22LR in my Ruger MK III Hunter, and I'm not able to always find just one type of load. Hollow Point. This increases the chances of stopping a target dead in their tracks right away. Accuracy is extremely good. Me personally I use HP Extremes for zippy loads. Talking to some is like beating your head against a brick wall. Not a lot of people understand the importance of using the right ammunition under different scenarios. Does either type of ammo cause more wear on the gun than the other? the only time you would have problem is the ammo itself.

Instead of passing straight through a target like their full metal jacket counterparts, they expand, fragment and shred. If you want me to try YOUR ammo, let me use Your gun! No need to be choosy if the HP feeds OK out of the mag.

The round nose is longer than a hollow point, so your oal should be greater. Some bullets are ideal for target practice whereas others are designed to cause as much devastation as possible.


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